GoDaddy wants to be spam police

zach · 08-08-2007, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SageMother

I would think getting the IP address and the ISP of the spammer would be the first step...along with the date and probably the time the e-mail was sent.

Most spammers use proxy servers. And generally anonymous ones. So the IP would be hard to get (unless the proxy happens to keep log files, although then the proxy isnt properly "anonymous")

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Originally Posted by SageMother

It would also help to record IP addresses of people who sign up for the affiliate program, just in case.

But what would you compare it against if proxies were used? Also, it shouldnt be the owners responsability to prove his innocence. It should be GoDaddy's to prove guilt.

I just got back from GoDaddy who tell me that their Abuse Department says that they have fairly "advanced tools" to identify the true cases from fake cases. I'm not sure what their advanced tools analyse though... sounds like we're just going to have to take their word for it. They are also aware that a competitor may file false complaints and they investigate the validity of complaints.

Anyway, thats what the people at GoDaddy say. In the end though, it's the legal agreement that counts.

Zach

Dave Zan · 08-09-2007, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by zach

In the end though, it's the legal agreement that counts.

Exactly.

Needless to say, there are those who agree and (yep) disagree. Given that
Go Daddy can do what they want with their systems, tread carefully.

tater03 · 08-09-2007, 10:24 PM

Thanks for letting us know what they had to say. Just not to sure if I trust their advanced tools. Not to say that they are lying but I would just want to know what advanced tools first.

Dave Zan · 08-10-2007, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by tater03

but I would just want to know what advanced tools first.

Don't we all. Unfortunately registrars aren't going to give that information to
any end-user at all, any more than you can compel Google to say what their
methods are for handling click fraud.

Grace · 08-13-2007, 02:28 PM

I wonder what GoDaddy abuse department looks like anyways? The high tech weapon of choice. They'll be a big secret and we feel the effects of it.

SageMother · 08-13-2007, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by zach

Most spammers use proxy servers. And generally anonymous ones. So the IP would be hard to get (unless the proxy happens to keep log files, although then the proxy isnt properly "anonymous")

But what would you compare it against if proxies were used? Also, it shouldnt be the owners responsability to prove his innocence. It should be GoDaddy's to prove guilt.

I just got back from GoDaddy who tell me that their Abuse Department says that they have fairly "advanced tools" to identify the true cases from fake cases. I'm not sure what their advanced tools analyse though... sounds like we're just going to have to take their word for it. They are also aware that a competitor may file false complaints and they investigate the validity of complaints.

Anyway, thats what the people at GoDaddy say. In the end though, it's the legal agreement that counts.

Zach

Are they offering the use of their tools, for a reasonable fee of course, to help those webmasters who have been the victims of someone else's sending spam with the site's information?

aquariancore · 08-15-2007, 07:27 PM

You can contact them direct toll free. Frankly, I have had no problems with them but they offers sales with a catch so watch.

Dave Zan · 08-16-2007, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by aquariancore

You can contact them direct toll free.

Go Daddy has a toll-free number?

berlinlife06 · 08-16-2007, 04:01 AM

I think that will be a very difficult thing to prove and to avoid. I guess people that are spamming then avoid godaddy.... I wish the people that keeps sending me crap are fined with something like that!

infernostudio · 08-16-2007, 04:54 AM

wow ... that is unbelievable. But they don't mind advertising the hell out of you and sending you a bunch of crap email when all you want to do is purchase a simple domain name.